F2 year in Aussie?

Discussion in 'PRHO and Foundation Years (FY1 and FY2)' started by ManchesterJP, Nov 29, 2007.

  1. ManchesterJP

    ManchesterJP New Member

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    Hi, i was wondering if anyone knew of any cases of people doing their F2 in Australia? According to the MMC and the foundation programme, you can potentially get prospective approval from the PMETB for experience abroad (obviously in a modern westernised health care system such as Australia) to count as your F2 year. This would mean that if you came back (the way things are going, who would?) to the UK, you would still be eligable for specialist training. I even heard stories of people getting F2 tracks with the option of working in Australia. Can anyone confirm this or shed any new light on the matter? (current F1)
     
  2. Katharine

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    Hi Manchester JP.
    I realise this is a long-dead thread, but i was wondering if you ever got a resolution to your query about F2 positions in Australia? I would be interested to know if this is a possibility.
    Thanks.
     
  3. mihir

    mihir New Member

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    Hi Katherine,
    It certainly is possible to do Fy2 in Aus and Nz.

    The Foundation Programme - Your career path

    Click on the very last link on this page to get a full list of places & hospitals that have been approved.

    Only problem with Aus/Nz is that since their internship year starts in January, I'm guessing we would have to take a few months out (or locum) after fy1. also after finishing fy2 in Dec, if you were to come back to apply for ST/CT would it mean another 6 months off (or locum) to get back in? Not sure if it works that way!
     
  4. Katharine

    Katharine New Member

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    Thanks Mihir for info :)
     
  5. Yixian

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    Just to note, NCTFS no longer allow you to do your F2 abroad anywhere, ever, at all. All has to be in the UK now!
     
  6. Katharine

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    Thanks Yixian- good to know.
    I wonder if there is a way of finding out (easily-like a list or something) which do allow F2 to be done abroad...?

    Anyway, thanks for info!
     
  7. crajee

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    Hi,

    Does anyone know how to actually get approval for a hospital in Australia? Especially if there's a particular one you want to go to, because the list given in the link above also notes that those applying have to apply for prospective approval - just for a general idea, what is involved in this?

    Many thanks! :)
     
  8. jessicatan

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    Hi I also realise this is a long dead post. But if anyone has any info about f2 abroad I'd be eternally grateful :D (as I have no where else to ask!!)

    I am a UK graduate but I plan to move out to Australia after GMC registration (FY1 year), I have two options, to do F2 abroad or to do a direct transfer. My questions are:

    1. Would leaving the foundation programme completely prevent me from ever working in the UK again? (not too bothered but would like to know)

    2. Anyone working/have worked in australia know if its more advantageous for me (one who is hoping to pursue a career in Australia), to transfer directly, or to do the F2 abroad (where i hear its more likely for you to get into a big, city hospital)?

    Thanks!!


    Any other advice would be great! Thanks!
     
  9. Dr. Bill Cosby

    Dr. Bill Cosby New Member

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    Hi Jessicatan - been a while since your post. Any information that you have picked up since then?
    I am in the exact same boat but I'm a Final year Medic (not F1 yet)
    Thanks all in advance
    Bill
     
  10. AussieBoy

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    Hi,

    "F1" doctor in Australia here (ie intern starting Jan 14). My experience is NSW only. VIC etc are different but not massively.

    Contracts here are two year covering internship and residency. The only "F2" positions that come up are due to people leaving their contract half way through and are quite unusual.

    Further, given that we have our own "medical school tsumani" and that non-Australian locally trained new grads are still waiting to see whether they get internships, the chances of an overseas applicant getting a spot are very slim. If you don't want to take my word for it, check via google. We have doubled our med student output in the last few years.

    Also, the chances of securing a metro hospital place vanishingly small. There were local applicants here in Sydney who ended up with their 10th choice. The most popular five rotations are very hard to get into.

    And even if you do find a metro position, there are several rural terms which you will find yourself obliged to fulfil. That would be three months in the middle of nowhere.

    The doors to practice in Australia are closing, starting with jnr positions and moving more senior year after year.

    Then again, at least we don't make you take and Aussie PLAB. For me to come back to the UK is very tricky.

    And then on top of this, if you aren't an Australian PR or citizen, you'll need a 457 visa which needs your employer to prove there issn't an Australian who can do your job. Tricky given the above.

    Don't mean to rain on your parade, but there you go. Check the Australian MEdical Student forum if you want more info.
     

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