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UCL or Cardiff?

Discussion in 'Royal Free and University College Medical School' started by Angelfish, Apr 8, 2009.

  1. Angelfish

    Angelfish New Member

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    I'm really struggling to decide between these two unis. I realise that ultimately it's my decision as to where I go and no-one can decide for me but if you could just give your reasons for deciding on one or the other it would be great to hear from you =]

    I do think that I should go to UCL because the course looks really good, it's got loads of really good hospitals attached (esp Great Ormond Street as I'm interested in paediatrics) and obviously it has a great reputation.

    However, I don't really like London - I live in a very small city and don't know whether I'll ever get used to London. In this respect I guess Cardiff would be more suited to me.

    So people at Cardiff - do you enjoy the course / lectures and are the clinical years as good as those you'd get in somewhere like London?

    And UCLers - did you get used to London and settle in quickly? And is the course as good as you thought it would be?

    Sorry this is soooo long =S
    Thanks for taking time to listen to my ramble! ;)
     
  2. Androo

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    I wouldn't place too much about Gt Ormond Street, and the other specialised hospitals at Queens Square or Moorfields as many people do. Unless you do an SSC specifically in a field that would take you there, its unlikely you'll ever get to see the insides of these hospitals for any great length of time. Besides, these are tertiary referral centres and you'll have a job enough learning the basics of paeds let alone advanced super-specialised paediatrics like you'd get at GOSH. That said, the people who work there do teach on the undergraduate course, and there are opportunities via the SSC to spend time there.

    UCL is one of the top universities in the world, with the largest amount of biomedical grant income of any university in Europe, meaning that the people who teach us are invariably world experts in their fields and at the cutting edge of research. Although the main UCL campus is in Bloomsbury, the other two main teaching hospitals at the Royal Free in Hampstead and the Whittington in Archway also provide general clinical teaching. Most of Year 4 and Year 5 is spent at district general hospitals around the South East - there is some choice of picking where you want to go, be it a quiet town or a busy city.

    If you want to be educated by world leaders in their fields at a prestigious world-reknown university, come to UCL. If you don't, go to Cardiff.
     
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    Gizmo says - New Member

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    medicine is the teaching of basic clinical sciences and diagnosis.
    if you dont agree, point out to me anyone part of the syllabus where this isnt the case. POint it out NOW, on this forum, and in a precise way, not vaguely with 'they are top blahblah'.

    'ow then does being taught by a top researcher improve your basic medical education?
    exactly and precisely, no vague answers please, if you can manage that, Androo.

    ow does being a top researcher elp wif being a top teachinmg clinician?
    is it not posible that just becos Cardiff doesnt shout 'we ave the top staff', that they actually do ave just as many top staff as others.
    qwhy would ANY decent med schools staff be good enough for the teaching of basic medical practice that the 5 year degree contains? are they not good enough for you if they aint at UCL? wat if they just arrived at UCL from cardiff 0- are those staff worse than those present? hmmmm

    why then do UCL go out of their way to advertise aving the top staff, top prestige, and top locations?
    ANSWER - Becos it needs too. if they couldnt get anyone to fall for that bullshit, then peeple would go other places everytime for a far more afforadable education doing TEN times more than they can afford at UCL.
     
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  4. Pammy

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    Teaching aside, if you really don't like London I would think twice about it. I know people who are very miserable there (and knew they wouldn't like London). Of course I know loads who love it (and personally I've always had a very soft spot for UCL - it's a friendly place, and it would be my top London choice always), but I am not sure what they thought before they went.
    It might be worthwhile, even if it's a lot of effort, to try and spend a week there, e.g. staying at a YHA or something or a friend, and see what life would be like (and also how expensive it would be). The expense is something that a lot of people underestimate - London is very, very expensive, and even though you can do it on the cheap (relatively), it is hard (and perhaps it's because I'm old and have had enough of living in holes...).
    Sorry I'm also just rambling as I am not studying at either place, so perhaps better listen to someone who does!
     
  5. Angelfish

    Angelfish New Member

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    Thanks for all your help =]
    In the end I firmed UCL because I decided that it had the best course for me and I also liked the idea of an intercalculated BSc which isn't available to everyone at Cardiff.
    So hopefully I've made the right decision!!! =]
     
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    Whats the point of making Cardiff an insurance if its the same grade requirements?

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    the choice was pretty much preordained anyway wif a sig like Ox/UCL/Bristol/Cardiff. note that cardiff intercalated bscs are available to everyone who wants them. peeple who dont want them simply dont bother fulfilling the requirements.

    ave fun, and we'll fink of you when i'm buying extra pints you cant afford for 6 years. ;)

    i
     
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  8. Kinkerz

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    What's one of those? :p
     
  9. Angelfish

    Angelfish New Member

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    I will have 4 A levels by the end of this year - I took my maths a year early (got a B). UCL I need AAB in the 3 subjects I'm taking this year. Cardiff lets me use my maths from last year... therefore my offer is effectively AA =]
     
  10. alex MD

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    That's one of the most hilariously ignorant pieces of bile I've ever read about medical school. UCL doesn't seem to be as world-renowned as people think it is. However, it still is a superb university and along with Barts, would be one of my top London choices (if I was that way inclined). However, to essentially suggest that if the OP chooses Cardiff, they are choosing against the 'best' is bull.
     
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